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Feature Request: Idea for Spamblock (Bayes)

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:23 pm
by seraphyn
I talked with Dirk (Link is german http://www.deimeke.net/dirk/blog/index. ... s-....html) about der Plugin Spamblock (Bayes) if it wouldn't be nice to have an automatic upload option to share the csv-files together.
At the moment some posts their csv on the web, so it isn't easy to allocate them.
And we do not have problems like Akismet ae ;)
It would be nice to have an option to enable/disable an automatic upload to an dedicated place of the database from the Spamplugin and to have the possibility to update the own database from this place.
If webspace needed I would provide some. Got a rootshell-less place, but unlimited traffic.
The Question is if something could be done from the developer of the plugin?
Greetings

Re: Feature Request: Idea for Spamblock (Bayes)

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:27 pm
by bernd_d
Sounds nice so far...but what can be done against people who train one or more "bad" words as a "very good" and upload this rating to the server?

Re: Feature Request: Idea for Spamblock (Bayes)

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:35 pm
by seraphyn
That's what I said to Dirk, too.
It would be nice to offer for upload a validation, but I got only something like a GPG-Signature in my mind.
But my coding in PHP this features is Pita lol
And validation of gpg-keys would be a nice web of trust imo..
Usable under Windows and X

Re: Feature Request: Idea for Spamblock (Bayes)

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:35 pm
by Lux
Hi

I don't think we have to make it that difficult.

Just an automatically generated key, which is published somewhere in the blog.

If you want to import, you have to give the URL and the key.

That's it.

Cheers

Dirk

Re: Feature Request: Idea for Spamblock (Bayes)

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:03 pm
by onli
Note that i described how such a system could work in german on dirks blog. Anybody needing a translation? Let's continue from there. Could that system work? Am i missing something?

Re: Feature Request: Idea for Spamblock (Bayes)

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:06 pm
by Lux
onli wrote:Note that i described how such a system could work in german on dirks blog. Anybody needing a translation? Let's continue from there. Could that system work? Am i missing something?
I would not like to have a central service. In my opinion it would be better to have an interface in every blog and let the user decide which sources he/she wants to use.

Cheers

Dirk

Re: Feature Request: Idea for Spamblock (Bayes)

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:54 pm
by seraphyn
Lux wrote:I would not like to have a central service. In my opinion it would be better to have an interface in every blog and let the user decide which sources he/she wants to use.
As far as I know there are only 2 sources I really know, yours Dirk and YellowLeds.
It's not easy to find sources, so should there be a central service, that provides defined sources from others members like repositories (URLs) and it is possibles to set up a sources.list in the Plugin :?:
Greets

Re: Feature Request: Idea for Spamblock (Bayes)

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:09 pm
by onli
I'm with both of you on this. Having this not decentraliced would be great. But seraphyn is right, when starting a blog, you need an easy way to add this. There is no use in bulding this if only experienced bloggers, with friends who use the system, may use that - they probably have fully configured filters anyway.
Apart from that: I never liked letting serendipity do things in the future, it never worked totally as expected - and this is nothing you want to start when someone visits a page.

Re: Feature Request: Idea for Spamblock (Bayes)

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:12 am
by bernd_d
Stupid question: What about privacy inside this database? For example author or e-mail? Or do you think it isn't a problem because the words are saved as single entrys, not in a context?

Re: Feature Request: Idea for Spamblock (Bayes)

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:16 am
by kleinerChemiker
At least in Germany it could be a problem. at least email is a privat data and if you send it to other servers, you have to ask the user.

Re: Feature Request: Idea for Spamblock (Bayes)

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:52 am
by onli
bernd_d wrote:Or do you think it isn't a problem because the words are saved as single entrys, not in a context?
I think so. They are tokenized anyway, pretty hard to reconstruct.

Re: Feature Request: Idea for Spamblock (Bayes)

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:36 pm
by seraphyn
What about not to serve Mailadresses and IPs :wink:
URLs in comments are known to be public, usernames as well.
Makes it a lil bit absurd but the judges will like it honestly... and me too ;)
Don't thought about it.
But best for bayes is the URLs and text given in the comments, isn't it?
Chris

Re: Feature Request: Idea for Spamblock (Bayes)

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:18 pm
by seraphyn
I just would like to bump it up and to ask if something new about this project?
chris

Re: Feature Request: Idea for Spamblock (Bayes)

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:51 pm
by onli
At the moment, i have a working prototype of such a system working on my local system. We got strange errors when trying to run it on Dirks server and it is stalling there.

Re: Feature Request: Idea for Spamblock (Bayes)

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:20 am
by seraphyn
Nice.
Is there an SVN or a Projecthomepage?
Chris