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Hallo!
Ich habe für den Downloadmanager die gif Bilder überarbeitet und sie transparent gemacht. Sie hatten fast alle einen weißen Hintergrund und das sieht auf andersfarbigen Hintergründen nicht sehr schön aus ...

Gibt es Interesse bei den plugin Entwicklern?

gruß
ICE

I too dislike the download manager images, and had thought of revising them. I would love to see your revised graphics... did you just open the original GIF image, and remove the white background, or did you create them completely new? How about a link to where you are using them?

Sorry for posting in English, but your post just happen to catch my attention, even though I do not speak German (I used alta vista!).

If you cannot read English, perhaps YL or Garvin could translate this post to German for me.

Hi Don!
I altered only the original images with a transparent background.

Download it here:
http://files-upload.com/files/580453/img.zip

I think the images are an improvement. Only one has jagged edges - download.gif, having a transparent background is better than white with no jagged edges. Perhaps Garvin can commit these files to cvs.

Thanks for your opinion.
I agree with you, the download.gif has jagged edges, but its no deal to remove them.
I think my images are better than the originals, too.

It was my intention to put the images into the cvs ... maybe Garvin can do that?

I only have svn access, not cvs, so I cannot commit the change. Hopefully Garvin (or Grischa?) will read this thread and commit your changes.

I could do this. Where do I get them from?

I have removed some white pixels from download.gif.

Download the images with transparent background here:
http://www.fileshost.com/en/file/11706/img-zip.html

This zip contains only the modified images ... just put them into the img folder of the plugin.

thank you!

Okay, thanks! download.gif is looking a little worse now on my white background than before. Any chance to smooth the borders a little more?

I uploaded the images into the cvs.

I think the only solution of fixing that is a new png download image.

This icons are KDE Desktop samples from http://www.paolomod.altervista.org/inde ... d=Download
... I think, they are free of use ... The German Open Source Orion Forum uses some pictures from this source too ...









What do you think about these Icons?

We are just not going to get clean edges on a round/textured surface that will work with both light and dark backgrounds using the GIF format.

This is the the current state of ICE's revised GIF image:


I made this one by compositing some icons from the same icon pack s9y uses in the admin:


It is a png, not a gif (beware IE<7 users!!!!!). Anyway, Grischa can do a "save as" on the image, and modify dlmanager.filedetails.tpl to call the png image instead of the gif image:
How does that sound?

And again, my apologies for switching this discussion from German to English in this particular forum, but thanks for making the switch!

Hmm.. But if ie <7 doesn't support png I think we should not switch to png, or am I wrong?

But I like your version of this icon more, Don. It doesn't help to save this as GIF?

It is not that ie<7 does not support pngs..... it does. Just has a bit of problems with pngs with transparent backgrounds.... This is what the browser compatibility plugin is all about.

Saving as a GIF will only work if I know what the background color is likely to be - light or dark. I can matte the image to that expected background. If I do it to white, it will look like crap on a black background. Just the nature of gifs and transparency.

This has only been an issue for IE... not most other browsers. MS fixed the problem in IE7. The bulletproof team decided we were tired of catering to a shitty browser, so we are liberally using png images with transparency. Quite soon, IE <7 will be a thing of the past. This plugin uses plenty of png images, and s9y itself also uses many png images with transparency.

This is the only way I know how to get a clean image with a transparency on any background color. I am not trying to force this change. I am merely offering an alternative.

gif with transparency works well with rectangular icons. Our download pic has a round form and it is impossible to make it transparent without jagged edges. Only the png format is able to draw shadows half-transparent.
Note: My fully patched IE6 displays this pngs half-transparent, all fine.

I think, we have two possibilies:

1. We use a new rectangular download.gif
2. We use this rounded (very beautitful) png download.png

What do you think?

Okay. I think we should use the png then, if it is not a a matter of IE6 not supporting PNG but only supporting it bad.

(My personal opinion is: IE problems? Get a browser, kid! But then Garvins warning signs pop up in my head: downwards compatibility!)

P.S.: Job done.. But at the moment there seems to exist a problem with the CVS, can't commit. I will do it later.

But Don: You've mentioned, that you worked on all the icons of the download manager? Can we see the others and are they available for CVS committing, too?