For the next 2.1 Serendipity with many handle improvements for the ML, I would like to change the behaviour of media item directory selection from fallthrough, in mean including subdir items, to strict too.
This has been bothering me some time, so I added a base directory strict to my dev blog, which works well. And was the first thing to have when cleaning up my ML!
I wanted to make a strict filter next, so a user can choose to have a directory selected strict or not. This would issue other questions, where to place this, for example. But now, that I have cleaned up the root, I recognized, it would (maybe) be nice to have the selection set strict to all per default. This while:
If you have a clean directory structure there is no need to have this fallthrough mode at all.
(I know the argument a changed behaviour will/could confuse users. This is the nature of such things.)
What do you think and what do you prefer. Give us/me some more input, please.
change incl. subdir behaviour of media selection
change incl. subdir behaviour of media selection
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Re: change incl. subdir behaviour of media selection
You need to rephrase, that sentence sounds like Yoda.Timbalu wrote:For the next 2.1 Serendipity with many handle improvements for the ML, I would like to change the behaviour of media item directory selection from fallthrough, in mean including subdir items, to strict too.
What is a strict filter?I wanted to make a strict filter next, so a user can choose to have a directory selected strict or not.
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Re: change incl. subdir behaviour of media selection
strict is: show only items in this directory, not in a child sub directory.
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Re: change incl. subdir behaviour of media selection
So you want the media library to never show items of subdirectories, or do you want to add a config option or checkbox or whatever to make the user pick that? Or do you want to add an option for each directory to say if it's "strict" or not? I think that wouldn't be good, I think whether to show items strictly or not should be some kind of interface toggle that gets remembered (in a cookie or personal user storage), like:
[x] Show items in subdirectories
This could be placed in the search-filter dialog, or maybe even below the filter "All / Pictures / Video".
I do think that what you call "fallthrough" is something that especially with a clean directory structure could make sense.
Let's say you have a photography blog. I would add directories like:
Now if I want to pick a photo I can dive deep into the lowest directory to pick "Buildings > Outdoor > Urban". But if I wanted to see *ANY* building I photographed in the past 2 years, I would want to see them, no matter in which subdirectory they are. Only "fallthrough" mode would allow that! Otherwise I would need to put pictures into multiple directories ("Buildings" *AND* "Buildings > Outdoor > Urban").
Thus, I think having this fallthrough-mode is something that is a unique and great feature I wouldn't want to remove.
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[x] Show items in subdirectories
This could be placed in the search-filter dialog, or maybe even below the filter "All / Pictures / Video".
I do think that what you call "fallthrough" is something that especially with a clean directory structure could make sense.
Let's say you have a photography blog. I would add directories like:
Code: Select all
+ People
+ Portraits
+ Nudes
+ Female
+ Male
+ Buildings
+ Outdoor
+ Urban
+ Nature
+ Indoor
+ Romantic
+ Modern
+ Landhaus
+ Sci-Fi
Thus, I think having this fallthrough-mode is something that is a unique and great feature I wouldn't want to remove.
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Re: change incl. subdir behaviour of media selection
Just maybe. Depending on how this is used. The "Any Buildings" sample is truly a good example to keep this feature.garvinhicking wrote:So you want the media library to never show items of subdirectories
Yes, see belowgarvinhicking wrote:do you want to add a config option or checkbox or whatever to make the user pick that?
That is exactly what I was thinking about. And I would not like to hide this in the filter layer.garvinhicking wrote:I think whether to show items strictly or not should be some kind of interface toggle that gets remembered (in a cookie or personal user storage), like:
[x] Show items in subdirectories
This could be placed in the search-filter dialog, or maybe even below the filter "All / Pictures / Video".
Not having a direct option to concentrate on a directory level, is what we currently have and is what I would like to change.
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Re: change incl. subdir behaviour of media selection
OK, cool. I think being able to toggle it would be a good feature to have!
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Re: change incl. subdir behaviour of media selection
Done! Having these new move and select options, the ML suddenly makes fun! And I've got some more to come...
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